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#1765 2011-04-11 22:33:30

els
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

Andreas, I honestly don’t know if that is possible, you might want to ask this question in the gbp_permanent_link thread, as Graeme knows both plugins well. But I am curious why for instance en-article-title would be better for SEO than /en/article-title?

Last edited by els (2011-04-11 22:34:19)

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#1766 2011-04-12 06:22:46

whocarez
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

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For SE “en” in en/article_title is the first level and more relevant than the article_title. If between them is only a dash, than they are on the same level and only the position of the keyword in order counts …. for example look at the url structure of “tripadvisor”.
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#1767 2011-04-12 09:30:40

datorhaexa
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

As far as I know, the one thing Google advises against is deep nesting, i.e. dir1/dir2/dir3/dir4 etc. (In TXP it is hard to go overboard with nesting anyway.)

The language directory in MLP, in its solitary state, gives you the corresponding language site root, so it is only logical that this persists when there are sections afterwards. It will not break the bot’s neck as long as you have a hierarchy (path) that leads to that article.

This said, it will be great if you can point to reference reading supporting what you said — I’m always open to surprises.

Last edited by datorhaexa (2011-04-12 09:31:49)

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#1768 2011-04-13 08:54:21

whocarez
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

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@datorhaexa
it is only a “phenomena” that you can observe. some sites with a lower PR and lower linkpower rank higher because of the easier url structure, that means relevant keywords on the first level (means before the second slash after the domainname) in url ….
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@all
Anyway, is it possible to get rid of the language code at least for the homepage?
lreynolds asked it already in this post, but with no answer …

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#1769 2011-04-13 13:16:28

datorhaexa
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

Andreas, could you please provide some reading on the subject? I have not observed said “phenomenon”, but would be interested to read about that. Thanks!

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#1770 2011-04-13 14:53:37

whocarez
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

datorhaexa [offtopic]@
I can´t. It´s like every time in SEO. Everyone has another opinion, thinks he is right and Google & Co. have no open source algorithms for proving these propositions. Sorry moderators for offtopic talk….
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#1771 2011-04-25 13:59:20

Depot 1
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

Hi everybody,
I’ve just installed the MLP plugin for a site with two languages – danish and english. Everything works backend (it seems), but when viewing the site, I get a 'The requested URL /da/ was not found on this server.'
The URLs work fine without the /da/.
For instance: http://depot1-testserver.dk/index.php?id=5
(instead of: http://depot1-testserver.dk/da/index.php?id=5)

As it shows, I’m using messy URLs, but according to previous posts in this thread, that should’nt be a problem.

I’m using:
gbp_admin_library version 0.4.1
I10n version 4.3.0.12
zem_contact_lang-mlp version 4.0.3.6-ML
Textpattern version 4.4.0

In case it helps, here are my diagnostics:

Textpattern version: 4.4.0 (r3514)
Last Update: 2011-04-25 11:27:17/2011-04-25 11:22:20
Document root: /customers/1/b/f/depot1-testserver.dk/httpd.www
$path_to_site: /customers/1/b/f/depot1-testserver.dk/httpd.www
Textpattern path: /customers/1/b/f/depot1-testserver.dk/httpd.www/textpattern
Permanent link mode: messy
open_basedir: /customers/1/b/f/depot1-testserver.dk//httpd.www:/customers/1/b/f/depot1-testserver.dk//httpd.private:/customers/1/b/f/depot1-testserver.dk//tmp:/customers/depot1-testserver.dk:/var/www/diagnostics:/usr/share/php
upload_tmp_dir: /customers/1/b/f/depot1-testserver.dk//tmp
Temporary directory path: /customers/1/b/f/depot1-testserver.dk/httpd.www/textpattern/tmp
Site URL: depot1-testserver.dk
PHP version: 5.3.5
GD Image Library: bundled (2.0.34 compatible); supported formats: GIF, JPG, PNG.
Server TZ: UTC
Server Local Time: 2011-04-26 15:03:55
DST enabled?: 0
Automatically adjust DST setting?: 0
Time Zone:  (+0)
MySQL: 5.0.51a-24+lenny5-log
Locale: en_GB.UTF-8
Server: Apache
PHP Server API: cgi-fcgi
RFC 2616 headers: 0
Server OS: Linux 2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64
Active plugins: hak_article_image-0.6.3, zem_contact_lang-mlp-4.0.3.6-ML, l10n-4.3.0.12, gbp_admin_library-0.4.1, msd_minibar-0.6m
Admin-side theme: classic 4.4.0

Pre-flight check: 
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Some Textpattern files have been modified: 
	/customers/1/b/f/depot1-testserver.dk/httpd.www/textpattern/lib/txplib_db.php
The following PHP functions (which may be necessary to run Textpattern) are disabled on your server: disk_total_space, diskfreespace, proc_nice
------------------------

I’m probably missing something quite simple, but can’t figure out what it is …
Has anyone encountered this problem and found a solution?
Thanks!

Last edited by Depot 1 (2011-04-26 15:15:02)

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#1772 2011-04-27 07:07:23

paxrex33
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

Hi. I’m using TXT 4.2.0, PHP 5.2.14, MySQL 5.0.45 and MLP 0.9.13-gp.
I have a site with two languages, Serbian (sp-rs) and English (en-gb).
What I would like is to show homepage in Serbian by default for the first time visitors until the English translation is not done.
I am using Google Analytics and I see lots of visits to English home page but it is empty.
How can I redirect those users to homepage in Serbian?

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#1773 2011-04-30 10:50:11

whocarez
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

Hello,
I have an issue with the “Last-Modified:” header and MLP 0.9.13-gp. The header gives every time the actual system time back, so it seems as if the website is every time updated, but it is not :-).
Is this a “normal” behaviour of MLP sites?
Btw. the demosite http://mlp-demo.netcarving.com/ has the same “problem” ….

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#1774 2011-05-12 08:48:57

Depot 1
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From: Copenhagen
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Posts: 24
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

Hi again,
I am still having problem with the plugin – as mentioned in post #1771 above.
Can someone who have the plugin up and running please tell me, if they have done anything different, than what I did:

1. I installed the plugin according to the Readme file.

2. I changed the UNIX Permissions for the css, lib and images files to 644.

3. I ran the Wizard, and made the translations in the Articles tab.

4. In my pages this code has been inserted into the body tag: <body dir="<txp:l10n_get_lang_dir />" >

5. I have used <txp:l10n_lang_list wraptag="li" surpress_current="1" /> in my navigation in order to change language (danish and english).

That’s it.
The browser can’t find any files in either /da or /en directories.
Am I missing something?

I am very close to deadline, so any help is highly appreciated!
Thanks!

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#1775 2011-05-12 09:41:12

lonelytraveller
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From: Firenze, Italy
Registered: 2008-04-04
Posts: 45

Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

Depot 1 wrote:

The browser can’t find any files in either /da or /en directories.
Am I missing something?

Are you sure that you don’t have any /da or /en directories on your server? A couple of months ago I installed TXP + MLP on an existing website that already had a sort of multilingual support, and forgot to delete existing /it and /en language directories used by the previous CMS, so when I typed a url like mysite.com/en/index.php the browser looked for the index.php file in the en/ dir and when finding none the result was a 404 error.
Also, does the site works without MLP installed? In the past I had to change the .htaccess file to make TXP work on some hosts.

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#1776 2011-05-12 09:47:40

Depot 1
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From: Copenhagen
Registered: 2011-01-03
Posts: 24
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Re: MLP - The Multi-Lingual Publishing Pack

The site works fine without the MLP plugin. With the plugin activated the page shows without the /da in the URL. So it seems, that the browser looks for the pages in a /da directory, but the directory is’nt there.

I can’t find the /da or /en directories on the server.

Last edited by Depot 1 (2011-05-12 09:48:40)

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