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#1 2006-10-05 10:24:05

Skubidu
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Symphony Web Publishing System

Is there anybody in this forum who has ever worked with Symphony?
It is free to use (not OpenSource though) and has a very good looking, reduced interface.
I like to know what the differences are in what you can achieve with Textpattern and Symphony.

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#2 2006-10-05 10:32:16

-jw-
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From: fruitbelly, the Netherlands
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

Not yet worked with it. Just downloaded the latest installer to play with it on my textdrive account. There is a thread over at the textdrive forum. Maybe there wille be some posts on the differences between Textpattern and Symphony in the next couple of days, at least I hope so.


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#3 2006-10-05 11:48:13

Ace of Dubs
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

I had played with the demo when it first came out. Interface is ver slick but I had a rough time getting my head around the whole XSLT thing..it was also a much more basic admin, good to see they have expanded the functionality (campfire integration is nice too)

FWIW, Symphony was the slowest in benchmark tests against Rail and Django.

Right now ModX and Radiant CMS have my attention. One is still too complex and convoluted and the other is blindingly simple..TXP sits comfortably in the middle for now, but its good to have more than one tool in the toolbox

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#4 2006-10-05 11:57:29

Skubidu
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

FWIW, Symphony was the slowest in benchmark tests against Rail and Django.

That seems to be another Symfony they are talking about – not Symphony.

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#5 2006-10-05 14:25:30

Walker
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

Symfony == Open-source php5 framework that looks like a java developer threw it up.

Symphony == Web publishing/CMS

Hrm….can’t get textile to work on that second link…..

Last edited by Walker (2006-10-05 14:26:41)

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#6 2006-10-05 14:44:53

Walker
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

Oh, also, Ace, have you tried out cakePHP? I have been using it to produce project for myself and clients. (this one for instance)

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#7 2006-10-05 15:16:33

hcgtv
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

Symphony looks good on the surface, I’ve yet to kick the tires cause I dislike becoming a member to download a free product. It’s free but it’s not Open Source, you pay for support if you can’t figure out the XSLT based templating system.

Alistair said on the forums:
But Symphony’s strength really shines when people decide they need more than just a blog, and this is something that WP, TXP and MT cannot do easily, if at all.

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#8 2006-10-05 20:46:46

soulship
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

Symphony looks good on the surface…

I would have to agree here. I waited and waited for the release to become “free” which it did about a month ago. I installed it the same day. Played with it for several hours here and there and it has been sitting. There are way to many factors that can go wrong to actually try to set this up for anyone onther than a nerd cough developer. I can’t imagine trying to set this up for a client. Oh, the support calls you would get. You can customize the interface to limit what is seen…. You can make it into anything apparently if you check out the screencasts, but I have to think about who is willing to pay for something that I can do out of the can, with txp.

~jamie

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#9 2006-10-05 22:30:30

hazel
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From: Glastonbury, UK
Registered: 2006-09-22
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

I think they’re asking a lot with the XSLT stuff. Seems a bit of tangent.

Radiant’s looking good, especially the inheritance stuff. But there doesnt seem to be a divide between content and code, theyre both together in the page. As the dev says…

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Radiant is a CMS for designers and programmers. It’s made for technically savvy users (From his presentation at chirb)

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Also worth looking at is Mephisto, another rails app. Uses txp-like section concept.

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#10 2006-10-05 23:10:46

goncalo.dumas
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

And what about Simplelog? I’ve heard that is simpler than Mepisto
I’ve followed a hint from the creators of the suckerfish that lead me to mephisto, then, in one of textdrive’s forum post witch mentioned mephisto, someone introduced simplelog… they are both rails… or is it ruby? …or ruby gems on rais ;o)
Simplelog even has a nice screencast showing you the installation process in a Mac.
By the way, could someone explain me how o install simplelog in a textdrive account, usin only english vocabulary? please?

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#11 2006-10-06 00:52:49

Mary
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

I haven’t been able to try Symphony, as I have repeatedly been unable to register (verification email doesn’t work). :/

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#12 2006-10-06 06:46:07

Skubidu
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Re: Symphony Web Publishing System

Untill now I just clicked through the online demo and watched some screencasts. In general the system seems much more flexible to me, especially if you need unlimited custom fields and a customizable inferface on a per section base. I never worked with this XSLT stuff but it seems to be very powerfull and it’s also – as textpattern – tag based, so you don’t need to know php or something like that.

Sure, Textpattern has some great things out of the box (files, links) but if you want to do more than a site publishing texts, it can be very limited, too (we only have 10 custom fields, and the interface – especially the write tab – is not that easy to use for “normal” editors, if you’re having many custom fields or have to enter an article image).

If somebody has taken a deeper look into the applications it would be nice if he could post a review here :)

Last edited by Skubidu (2006-10-06 06:46:30)

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