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Skubidu wrote:

either „…“ / ‚…‘

I consider the closing quotes inclined into the wrong direction, and would rather expect this:

„…”

Are you sure about that?

Understood. So there’s definitely a real need for a distinct glyph to cover apostrophe’s, a “9” on the upper line boundary. No kiddin’.

I reverted back to Unicode checker in order to map the correct Unicode value, to the Glyphs produced using these key strokes.
So here is a Summary:

Normally used quoting style:

Secondary or nested style:

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The rendering of the glyph should be fairly the same for all fonts.
I can not get at the third or forth type,since I don’t use such software as Word or openoffice,but I can see, that they are there, if pressing opt command, and opt cammand shift.
(however, I have rarely seen those quote styles)

Greek keyboards are using a QUERTY LAYOUT (thank God)
Also , all the above, is when we are talking about XHTML and Unicode, not when we are talking about Texteditors, that
might map specific punctuation characters in different proprietary ways, (haven’t been able to find out which code point values those are for Word, or such)

The system or ASCII quote style remain in the same place as on a US-keyboard layout, next to the return key, towards the left.

Update, one screenshot that shows which Glyphs become available for option:

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<img src=“http://consking.com/screenshots/macoskeys1.png” width=“391” height=“175” title=“macoskeys1” />

Smartquotes, available at number key 9 with option modifier

Glyph for smart quotes, is supposed to be filled 6699, however many fonts map another Glyph there instead, which looks entirely different(As can be seen on my Browser for Instance)

regards, marios

Last edited by marios (2006-09-20 00:04:15)

One question regarding the two quote styles („…“ / ‚…‘ vs »…« / ›…‹ ): would it be common to use a mix of the two styles in a document? Or is it pretty much one or the other?

There are three ways we could approach multiple quote styles in Textile:

One is to have some kind of setting or mode to select the style you want. “dumb” ‘quotes’ produce either „dumb“ / ‚quotes‘ or »dumb« / ›quotes‹ depending on that setting.

Two is, we use additional Textile markup characters to stand in for the second quote styles. Perhaps >dumb< >>quotes<< or similar.

And three is, we support only one style of quote per language (either „…“ / ‚…‘ or »…« / ›…‹, whichever is more common), and allow the user to manually enter the other using the character map or similar. This is the current situation.

Last edited by zem (2006-09-19 23:13:31)

I think for German the first option would be the best one. Which quotes are more common depends on what you are writing. In general „these“ quotes are the standard ones. But if you are writing more literary texts »the others« are the one you use.

The second option would be a nice addition, but it’s not a common syntax (which might be a problem).

The third one is an improvement, but it’s not that satisfactory:)