Another pre-release, 4.0-20060831.zip

Sencer · 2006-09-01 07:42:04

Skubidu wrote:

Well, I’ve got a Laptop with a screen resolution of 1280×800. There is not that much space vertically, so beside the visuell aspect (I think it looks ugly) I hope the needed lines for one article will be reduced again. It’s not fun to have to scroll so often on the touchpad of a laptop…

Funny, I have the same resolution and use a laptop as well. And I prefer the current way, visually as well in terms of space and usability (the two links in a column with no header always looked out of place for me). In terms of readability I prefer less columns (the real difficulty probably stems from the amount of information that is in the list).
Given the search-box at the top, I hardly have to scroll either. Once you have to scroll it doesn’t really make much of a difference whether you scroll a little or much, and given that the the smallest list of 15 has never fit on a single screen, IMHO there’s very little effective change.

Maybe we can find another solution…

Skubidu · 2006-09-01 07:44:04

Question: If we need to save space horizontally, why not joining the category 1 and 2 column? This would reduce the space needed horizontally, it’s connected in content and it would not result in a new line.

Besides the visual aspect I don’t think it makes sense to list edit and view links under the headline ID. Same on the comment tab, where I think E-Mail, Webseite, IP should be replaced by one single headline, if they are unified in one column.

Last edited by Skubidu (2006-09-01 07:45:00)

Mary · 2006-09-01 07:45:49

It’d make sortable columns for those things pretty difficult.

Some other possibilities are being discussed too.

phiw13 · 2006-09-01 08:27:40

@Skubidu

Same resolution on my PowerBook, browser window about 1050px wide. Horizontal space is way more important: like, having the article title not wrapping to one word per line, same for the comments content.
No problems with scrolling: spacebar or page-up page-down arrows :-).

@mary or Sencer
(minor nitpick)
Is that my set up or something, but are the links in the headers of those tables written with ampersands instead of having them encoded (amp;) ? should be encoded for html validity…

Maybe those links could be slightly styled to look more like little buttons ?

ruud · 2006-09-01 10:30:30

4.0.3 had one line per article if the title was short enough… I can see why you’d need to go to two lines to fit all the new columns… but three? Sure, it fits better on 800px wide screens, but when the edit/view is next to ID (instead of below) and I resize to 800px, it still fits without a vertical scrollbar and automatically takes three lines because the date wraps, but I guess 800px users are used to that sort of thing happening.

Some other things I noticed:

Comments tab: the “email, website, ip” headline doesn’t fit on a single line. The “IP” part wraps to the next line. Replacing that with a single headline as Skubidu suggests would solve that.
Comments tab: the ID is filled with zeros at the beginning up to a fixed length, unlike on the other tabs (like articles), where this isn’t done.
Files and links tabs: they have headlines called “file category” and “link category”, but the image and article tab just call it “category” (just ‘category’ is fine, I think).

Last edited by ruud (2006-09-01 10:33:39)

Mary · 2006-09-01 12:51:41

Comments tab: the ID is filled with zeros at the beginning up to a fixed length, unlike on the other tabs (like articles), where this isn’t done.

That’s because, for whatever reason (I think only Dean would know…), that’s what the actual id numbers are saved as in the database.

hcgtv · 2006-09-01 13:01:58

Sencer wrote:

Maybe we can find another solution…

Let’s take the Articles tab, the Title already links you to Edit mode, then I would make the ID a link to View mode. We can follow the same logic on all the other tabs.

Zanza · 2006-09-06 17:15:15

I use this beta release for this site and there’s still some problem with the “Send Last-Modified header” option. If it is set to yes, then any modification on the image captions (which I use for a brief comment of the images itselves) are not reflected automatically on the site.

I haven’t tried with articles, but if I change the image, then the modification is fine. Only caption, as far as I know, is affected.
If I set notification option to “no”, then it’s ok, as usual…

Another thing that is not a bug, but a feature lacking: when I update an existing image, the alt text is mantained, but not the caption text. Can this be fixed? If you manage a portfolio is hard to remember to copy the caption before updating the image and then past it again. Also name input field is affected.

Thanks, bye!

Z-

Anton · 2006-09-06 17:44:10

I seem to be unable to view a Sticky article as an individual article (works in article_list mode though), never had a problem with this before. Tried disable all plugins, still no luck.. Anyone else encountered this? Shall I post a more detailed bug report here somewhere..?

zem · 2006-09-06 23:13:53

Shall I post a more detailed bug report here somewhere..?

Yes please, start a new thread in this forum. We’ll need to see the article tag(s) you’re using to display the individual article.

squaredeye · 2006-09-07 04:46:45

Is anyone else’s release presenting a 1200px (or so) wide fixed width? (in Firefox)
Its not happening in Safari. Haven’t tested on the pc browsers.

I looked above and saw no mention of it.

I noticed the issue when I resized my browser window. :)

Anton · 2006-09-15 17:10:59

zem: ok, i’ll try to write something up. ~~just one question: am i safe to downgrade from the “cutting edge” textpattern directory (which i run now) to the official 4.0.3 release? no harm would be done to the database tables, right?~~ ok, i can confirm now that there were no troubles in “downgrading” to 4.0.3 final and that the problem went away – i can view stickies as separate articles again.

Last edited by Anton (2006-09-15 18:08:02)

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